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P: You know, it's interesting that the university, as provincial
as it was at that time, in a conservative, rural state, was
able to take a Bill Carleton and a Manning Dauer and handle
them very well and allow them the freedom that they needed.
L: Yes. Well, Vann Woodward fitted into that very well. I remember
a discussion, an argument Vann Woodward had with Dr. Leake.
I don't remember who else was around, but there were some other
members of this group, and we were together on the campus
all the time that fall. I had not married, you see. I was with
Bill and Manning and Vann, and sometimes Jack Maclachlan would
be with us. We'd eat breakfast together, we'd eat lunch, supper
together.
P: Was [John G.] Eldridge [professor of economics] in this group
at all?
L: Occassionally, but he was not a regular member. He associated
with us. .
P: Now did you say.
L: Maclachan, Emily White Maclachan.
P: Oh, Maclachan, John, yes, in sociology.
L: Yes, I've always pronounced it "McLaughlin".
P: Yes, I thought that's who you were talking about, but I wanted
to make sure to identify if it was.
L: Yes, that's who it was. I had an office on the second floor of
Language Hall. This must have been in my sophomore year, because
the first year I was with Vann Woodward on the third floor. Was
Anderson Hall there three up?
P: Yes.
L: Then I had a little cubby-hole in the English department office
on the second floor in there. I had a boy named Miller in the
class, wish I could remember his name. I liked Miller. He was
a nice-looking boy, not an especially out-going or warm personality,
but a very nice-looking boy and a good student. But he started
cutting classes, and for about three weeks he didn't show up.