49 didn't want to give me the information; he wouldn't give it to me for Jacksonville. P: So you worked on that and received a second degree? L: Yes, a master's degree, this time in political science. P: When was this? L: My major was in history as an undergraduate, then I got it in the summer of '28. P: And then you stayed on the faculty? L: No, thenI went to Syracuse as a teaching fellow in the School of Citizenship of Syracuse University of '28 and '29. The next year I came back to Gainesville. I decided I didn't want to go back to Syracuse and didn't apply for a fellowship. There / were some personal reasons for that. I came back to Gainesville looking for a job and Bill Carelton, I believe, told me there was an opening on the political science department staff for an instructor. It paid 150 dollars a month, or something like that, and I applied for it and I was appointed. P: You applied directly to Leake. L: Dr. Leake. I wrote him a letter from my home. I went home in Bay County and wrote him a letter. P: What were you assigned to teach? L: I taught medieval history and state government. I always enjoyed teaching state government more than any other government course at Florida. P: Let me jump right ahead here because time is moving away from us and I want to make sure I get a couple of things down here, although I'm sure we'll have to continue this interview. You went off on leave the following year, did you not? L: Yes, to the University of Chicago. P: And what was that for? L: Political science.