38 L: Yes, I was taken into Blue Key by virtue of the fact I was editor-in-chief of the Alligator. I'd just been elected. P: When were you taken into Blue Key? L: It must have been April, 1925. I believe the date would be given there, but my name is not listed in the present records for being taken in. I did. attend the first meeting. It was held at the Primrose Grill, which had been across the street from where it is right now. A lot of student body leaders were there. I was a member of them all, knew all their names. P: This was your installation. L: Installation, 1925. P: I see. L: They didn't have much installation. I was just there and you're in because you're the editor-in-chief. This was before any constitution or by-laws. They had a report of a committee there that student leaders became members by virtue of their position. P: I see. L: And I was there by virture of position. They changed it the next year and left that out, according to Lewisb Hall, who was my managing editor on the Alligator. I checked with Lewis not very long ago and I found out that I was taken into Blue Key several years later, according to that report right there. Then it was unknown how I got in. So I called Lewis Hall and I said,. "Am I wrong, are you in Blue Key?" He said, "No, you were taken in a year before me." He said, "You were taken in because you were editor of the Alligator but then the next year, they were nominated and balloted by the chapter." He said, "I was blackballed and some of my friends blackballed everybody else. They were always being blackballed. So they couldn't elect anybody until they argeed to elect all of those who had been the blackballed." He said, "That's the way I got in Blue Key." P: Who was running it from the faculty's point of view then?