33 chairman of the Beefsteak Club at the beginning of the year. Nobody nominated me, said anything about it. They elected somebody else and it was over with. I was out. Then I found out that my fraternity had sent somebody else in my place to represent the fraternity. I was just completely out. P: You had turned everybody off as a result of what you had done. L: I turned everybody off. During the year, I remember a meeting Preston Bishop of Pike fraternity, two years ahead of me, told me that when he was a freshman, he marked the student ballots all night. Theinext day, election day, it was arranged for the ballots that were cast by the student body to be taken out, and the ones that he helped to mark that night be put in the box in the place of it. So he said we knew the exact number of votes each candidate would get. And set it up like that. By that time I was about ready to revolt, as you could see, and especially when they voted me out of the Beefsteak Club like that. That's how I got involved with the other group. They invited me to join them, and invited me to be chairman, and I refused that job and took the vice-chairmanship and Bob Parker, here in Tallahassee, and lawyer, was the chairman. So we put together. a ticket and we voted them out of office. Every man we had, except one or two in minor jobs, except one or two officers, were filled by our candidates. It was a great victory in my senior year. But prior to this time, when the question came out about what the fraternity was supposed to do, and I had come outagainst block voting. Back in those days on both sides, and I::think in all the fraternities, the freshmen were required to vote the ticket, and were told just to vote the ticket. P: I suspect:that's still true. L: I wouldn't be surprised. I know that year later, a boy I admired very much, Sam Gibbon's brother, an attorney in Tampa, had the same problem with the ATO's. He rebelled because they told him he had to vote a straight:ticket. This was years later. I was teaching down there, he was a student.