18 their yearly supply. Each family would come to the spring, and they would camp out:there for a week and made their own what we would call rum, moonshine, white lightning. So I was accustomed to drinking at Christmas time, but I didi't drink at the university, never did. P: How did the university let these boys shoot crap on the sidewalk? L: How do they let boys do a lot of things they're not supposed to do today? P: I see. L: I don't know that there was any prohibition against it, and they bet sometimes on it. P: You ate in the Commons? L: Yes. P: How was the food there? L: Compared to the food at Laird's Camp, it was wonderful. P: You found nothing wrong with :the university. L: The only thing wrong with it was that-they gave us spinach sometimes and I can't eat spinach to this day, although they've improved it a great deal. P: Who was in charge of the dormitory? Who was the matron? L: An elderly lady named [Mrs. Margaret] Peeler. Later on, in order to develop some refinement, Dr. Murphree made arrangements for a Miss Elizabeth Skinner, a graduate of Smith College. Her family was rather wealthy down in Pinellas County, the Skinner family. They came originally from Wisconsin. They employed her as the director of the YMCA on the campus. She was a vivacious kind of a person, and they gave her an apartment in one end of Buckman Hall. By that time I was out of Buckman Hall, but I knew Miss Skinner. She had a lot of influence over my life. We used to say that the dormitories were in charge of Peeler and Skinner.