12 didn't go. Anyway, when he finished high school the war was on and he was seventeen years of age, and he tried to volunteer for the Officer's Training Corps, but was turned down. Then on November 11, 1918, he registered for the draft. He was eighteen years of age then. But he didn't go to college, and I remember hearing my father say later on that my brother just decided he would stay on in the business, which might or might not have been a good thing for him. He told me later on in life that if he'd gone to college he would have studied chemistry. But I wanted to go to college, and itwas the year when everybody was thinking about going to college. Nine of the boys in my class, and that was about almost half of them--I think there were two of them who didn't go to college--but nine of us went to the University of Florida. I was the only one to graduate out of nine boys from Bay County, class of '23. P: Now, you came to Gainesville then in September of 1923? L: That,s right. P: Was this the first time you had seen Gainesville? L: No, that spring I had gone down there with out high school principal, Dr. [Glenn] Ballord Simmons, who later was Dean at the University. He had taken a group of us down there to the university, to the track meet, in April, I believe it was, in 1923. We left Panama City about 9:30 in the morning in a brand new Ford car. We crossed the river on a ferry at Chattahoochee and the car was loaded--we had to help push the car up the hill. We got here in the late afternoon and had supper and started to Gainesville. To make a long story short, we got to Gainesville about noon the next day. P: When you say here, you meant that you had gotten to Tallahassee that afternoon. L: Yes, and we stopped two or three hours here. P: You spent the night here? L: No, we travelledall night.