panic for anyone. There was nothing you could do but do your job, you know?
 There was nothing... it was the only thing to do. So you focused on that. And
 there wasn't really any panic, fear, just... it's amazing under those circumstance
 how you operate. And everybody would do the same. By the way, my partner
 was the guy who my organization had held a Kangaroo Court for. He was
 actually my best friend in the organization. You don't realize where you are or
 what you're doing. Don't have time to do that. And not inclined to do that either.
 It really is amazing how matter-of-fact everything is. And I think that, that's why
 you know, we got into conversation of war stories and so on. Most guys and war
 stories are acting for the camera. They think that's part of it, you know. And I
 think guys who were really in action are just matter-of-fact doing what they're
 supposed to do. I honestly feel that's true. They aren't sure acting for the
 camera, I can tell you.

Q.: Okay. So is there any, what's the step by step process that you yourself when
 through mentally when you first see a patient or the injured soldier?
A.: I guess the first notion is, what can I do for this person? What can I, well, also
 where the wounds are. And then, and then you, of course, the bleeding is the first
 thing we look at. And then, stopping the bleeding. And then, bandaging the
 person and giving him a shot for his pain afterwards. That's about all that, and
 then turning him over to the stretcher people and then they go from there. It's our
 of your hands. I think it wasn't that much, there really wasn't that much to it.
 Well, the other more severe patients we had curiously enough, was somebody
 who was brought in because he had tried to rape a German girl. This was in
 Hanover. And the civilians, he went up, was going upstairs with this girl. He had
 a rifle. And German civilians of Hanover, about 25 of them, stormed him, took
 his gun from him, and beat him to a pulp with that gun. Then they brought him to
 us, the medics to see what we could do for him. And there was not very much we
 could do for that guy. We gave him a shot of morphine and just bundled him in
 bandages and sent him back to the, again, the M.A.S.H. kind of hospital and, but,
 by the way, he was our most severe case that we ever had.

Q.: Really?
A.: He was a criminal, essentially he was a war time American soldier criminal.
 There were not just one or two of those, That's part of the war that they rarely tell
 you about is the criminal activities on the part of the soldiers.

Q.: Did you guys ever encounter any injured soldiers who were not American?
A.: Yeah, that's that's good. I don't think we ever did.

Q.: Really?
A.: No, we never did. The only time, there was a real contact with German soldiers
 was again near the end of the war. I was being sent out to be the medic for 120
 troops. The driver picked me up and he took me out there, I don't know how far



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