page 39 want them. Just didn't woo them. And I could have gotten some members of the Democrat house right now to switch and I'm sure that the Democrats would have applauded if We had been able to get them to switch. But we didn't want.them, because unfortunately, there are a few people in the legislature now that shouldn't be there. But you know, to run for the state chairmanship, two things I doubt if I will ever do it again and I probably wouldn't have done it in '70 if I hadn't been so damn mad at Kirk for splitting the party and playing the part like he did .. (End of tape.) From the Southern Oral History Program, #4007, Interview /4-ea in the Southern Historical Collection, University of North Carolina Library, Chapel Hill. FOR REFERENCE ONLY: PERMISSION TO PUBLISH MUST BE REQUESTED. WARNING: MOST MANUSCRIPTS ARE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT.