page 15 candidate running as a Republican. He was Democratic president of the senate, his name is Jerry Thomas, no relation of mine, but a great guy and a dyed in the wool conservative with an outstanding record and he works like the devil. Campaigns hard and has been building an organization for over a year and he has the best organization right now, five months before the election, he's got the best organization that I have ever seen. He's got the most people. And that's what it takes. And he has done it quietly, a lot of people don't even realize that he has such an organization. He has organized every county, it doesn't make any difference you know, we have eighteen counties in Florida, I believe it is, with less than a hundred registered Republicans, but he has an organization in each one of those counties, and obviously, they are not Republican. He's gone in and gotten Democratic conservatives on his steering committee. And he's done a phenomenal job and I'll tell you right now, remember, I'll bet on it, I'll put money on it, that he'll win. Because, listen, things haven't changed that much in 110 years since Abraham Lincoln told us how to do it in 1854, find the Whigs, be sure they are registered and be sure that you get them out to vote. And that's what this guy:is doing. He's finding the people who are sympathetic and he's building an organization. And Askew's going to try to do it with the press and with PR and I just believe that the way that Thomas is doing it this year is the way that is going to win. J.B.: What do you see as the outlook on the Congressional races? Thomas: All four of our incumbents will win and we will pick up one other seat. The Fifth District, there again, we should have had it in '70, '72. It was a new district, it's a Republican district, but we got involved in a bitter primary and when the two guys got through calling From the Southern Oral History Program, #4007, Interview /4-0 in the Southern Historical Collection, University of North Carolina Library, Chapel Hill. FOR REFERENCE ONLY: PERMISSION TO PUBLISH MUST BE REQUESTED. WARNING: MOST MANUSCRIPTS ARE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT.