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 without that, we don't have a tax base. Industry includes agriculture, just a number of
 things. Again, that's where I took it as an individual as much as I did as the newspaper,
 but I always had the backing of the newspaper. We promoted law enforcement, and a lot
 of times, we'd sit on a story until they could get their case worked out so that we
 wouldn't break something before they got their case put together. Of course, again, this
 was me working with them on an hourly basis, virtually. You know, any hour of the day
 and night. I'd say our biggest contribution right now is trying to keep as much
 government control out of our lives as anything. Right now, I just found out yesterday
 that now you've got to go get a permit for a man to slip an air conditioner in your
 window, even if he plugs it into a one-ten outlet, and they [are] getting ready to go from a
 $20 permit to a $40 permit. This is local, but what they're doing is following suit in all
 these other counties. This past legislature, I understand Volusia has somewhat of a thing
 on this, they tried, there was rumors about these people that's planting pine trees, and
 that's a crop. That's nothing but a crop. It's a crop to be harvested. That they wanted it
 now so you would have to pay for somebody, a government official, to go out there and
 look at that stand of pine trees, and then if he says, yes, you can cut these trees, then you
 go get a permit to have them cut. Now, when are they going to go to corn and soybeans
 and tobacco, and then when are they going to go to your wife's flower garden? No, you
 can't cut those flowers until you go buy you a permit. There's no stopping to it.

P: That's mainly the editorial content of your paper, that you feel like you made your major
 contribution.

G: Absolutely.

P: When you look at your career in journalism, and I know you have other interests, are you
 satisfied with what you've accomplished, given where you started?

G: Well, I've never been content in my life, so I don't really know how to answer that. I'm
 happy that I've reached the thirty-five year mark and I've got a daughter that can take
 this paper and go with it. I was extremely blessed that my wife has got the sales ability
 and the love to sell. She stays in on that telephone all day. She'd sell toe tags in a hospital
 waiting room. She's got her own office in there where she's in charge of ad sales. My
 daughter's in charge of the business end of it. The two of them together sees that the
 composition is put together. My other daughter that my son brought home, and I refer to
 her that way rather than daughter-in-law, she is in charge of composition and layout. We
 are bringing our grandchildren up in this business just like we brought our children up in
 this business. Our children slept in cardboard boxes underneath the layout tables. In fact,
 they just grew up in [the newspaper business].

P: Is there a strange or amusing story about your career that you would tell us?

G: Well, I'm writing a book, and I keep my little handy tape recorder with me as I go down