FNP 51 Page 31 G: The way printing prices are going up so, I'm almost looking forward to it. That's the reason I kept a big herd of cattle. Back there when the newsprint industry, back, I guess it was, around the 1970s, when the oil prices went up so high the first time, and then, barn, the newsprint industry saw exactly what was happening and they considered themselves a shortage. I had this great big huge warehouse full of newsprint, and we [were] bringing in two or three truckloads a week coming in here. We [were] ordering newsprint out of Canada, and I was talking to truck drivers that [were] seeing warehouse loads of it stored back in Texas. It was just one of these deals that they were just creating their own shortage, jacking the prices up. I don't buy anything today that associated with CompuGraphic because of the way CompuGraphic did us. I just resent that type [of] tactics. P: Have you ever had any pressure from an advertiser because of something you either had written in an editorial or printed in an article? G: The best way for somebody to get something on front page is to tell me what they're going to do if I print it. God be my witness, it goes on front page. It may have been an inside story to start with, but it'll go on front page with an editor's note that we don't take threats and they can take their money and walk with it because the newspaper business never kept me in the newspaper business anyway. It was my other doings that did. P: But people would occasionally threaten to pull their advertising. G: I've had that to happen before. Then, of course, the first thing I do, I go ahead and run it. I try not to hold these grudges. Eventually you can get those fences mended and get it back, you know, if it's not something that's morally wrong. I don't care about the legality so much as if it's morally right or wrong. The government comes up with a new law every moment that we live, so we've broken so many laws by the time we get out of bed every morning. So that's not a problem to me. If it's right, do it. P: Can you give me an example of something that might happen like that, where you had printed something that might be controversial, might hurt the automobile industry or something? And they would say, well, we're going pull our advertising. Then you would just go ahead and pursue the same issue again? Is that correct? G: Most of our endeavors [were] not so much against the businesses. Of course, I've always been business-oriented, and they've had such a rough time. I'm never worried about my competitor because they've got the same Big Brother to fight that I've got. P: Plus, with advertising, you're the only paper in town, so they really don't have much choice, do they?