FNP 51 Page 30 G: It's government... the three that gave me the most trouble were federal inspectors [who were] retired military veterinarians, and we hadn't had a mule in the Army since World War I. They would retire, [and] in order to keep their pension going, then they'd get on with the state. They'd come in and literally and physically not know how to close-and I didn't know it when I bought the plant--you don't slam a cooler door. You push it [with] one finger, and it latches. The harder you slam it, the farther it bounces back on you. Those three men didn't even know how to close a cooler door, and they came in with the ability to close me down, and tried to. So I've got a lot of resentment towards our government, not towards this country because, like I say, I'm still standing [when] the flag comes by. I'm a member of the American Legion. I'm a disabled veteran but I've never drawn a penny from the government of any kind. All my farming operations. I want that clearly understood, that when I write a hard-hitting editorial about our welfare system, I've never accepted a penny on all these government handouts to the farmers to plant or not to plant. I've never accepted a penny to build a bluebird nest or build a fishpond, and they're doing it right here in this county. You can get money today to build bluebird nests. I have never, ever accepted a single solid penny from the government, no way, shape, fashion or form. I sent six checks back to the United States Army as a disabled veteran until I finally got my congressman to get them to stop sending me those checks. P: When you first started the newspaper business, was there much competition from radio? And how did you deal with that? G: There was a radio station here, WMAF. We never knocked the other newspapers. We never knocked our competitors, no way, shape, fashion or form. When somebody would say, well, I'm spending this much money with the radio station, I'd say, well, good, but I can show you this: when it's published, it's permanent. I think we had a big advantage over the radio station in several respects; [we had] something they could hold (a newspaper) in their hand, and they knew that it was something you could clip coupons out of. Coupons [were] heavy back then. Green stamps [were] heavy back then. This was something that was material, that they could hold in their hand, where the radio station wasn't. P: Do you think that's going to change, that, pretty soon, everything is going to be off the Internet? G: We're looking into that. In fact, we're already on the Internet. That's a world out there so unknown to me until I know it's going to change. I don't know how, but we've hired somebody to help us learn. I told my children all these years, you know, if you're not living on the edge, you're dying in too much space. P: Do you think there is going to be a time where people can't physically hold a newspaper, that they're not going to print those papers anymore?