FNP 51 Page 20 investigation on this Judge Smith and all these other people and was writing all these heavy hard-hitting stories. I told them, I said you know, if it doesn't rattle some cages, it's not worth writing; I want some cages rattled. So we just got threatened out of business, and I didn't realize it till after the fact, or I think I would've moved over there and probably wound up getting waylaid one night. It got real serious because that was during the time that a Mr. Gate went missing, the road guard, and they had carried him out down there, right there in White Springs, [to] one of these Ag[riculture] inspection stations. He went missing during that time, and they found him tied to a tree and executed, a bullet in the back of his head. She was doing a story on that, and we had run the pictures down in those woods. There [were] three or four different people who'd gotten killed during that time, so, yes, it was serious business. My advertising lady, who lives here in Madison now, she was Nancy Surles, then; she was the heartbeat of the profits. She could sell snow to an Eskimo. P: You had a group of mainly what would be called local papers. G: Yes. P: Did you have any dealings with John Perry and the Perry chain? G: I knew all of those folks, and we got started in the Florida Press Association in 1964 because I knew that without the association and their knowledge, we didn't know anything. So, I got involved in the Florida Press Association immediately, and I got to meet all these people, and I'd pick their minds. P: What finally happened to the Madison Enterprise Recorder? Did it finally go out of business? G: No, sir. P: Still in business? G: And we own it. P: Oh, now, you bought that? G: Yes. P: So, you still have two papers in Madison? G: Yes, sir, and I chose to do that. It sold, and then the Ricketson group ended up owning it, Tom Ricketson. Before then, though, the conglomeratee had moved a girl in here that was...she must have been raised on blood because she went after mine. She came in