believed there were definite benefits for both in diversification. Florida Power and Light Company, the utility, was going to need to go into a substantial building program in the mid-nineties. They said we needed to have a long-term diversification program that would bring a cash flow into the corporate family in the mid-1990s. This would take pressure off of the corporate stock in the New York financial market, which would benefit not only our stockholders, but our customers as well, who would have to pay for the higher cost of equity in the cost of capital being used in the service delivered to them. So on that basis, we engaged them to help us to select specific areas in which we would look for diversification. P: That happened, then, in 1986, when the holding company came into operation? M: I think it came into operation in 1984. P: I noticed in looking over your resume that you served as the president and CEO of Florida Power and Light until 1979. You then became chairman of the board and CEO in 1979 to 1983. What did that mean? What were the differences between your being president and chairman of the board? Was this just an additional responsibility? M: Initially I was the chairman of the board and CEO. Then when I turned sixty-five I relinquished the job of president and CEO, and I remained the chairman. It is the CEO that counts; that is where the buck stops within the company. There is a considerable amount of work that needs to be done between the board of a large and active company such as this, and the management of the company. I have always stressed interaction with the board--both keeping the board informed of everything happening within the company, as well as trying to educate them about the operation and the foreseeable concerns of the company. They can then translate the company to the people within the state. We have tried to select people on the board from within various geographical areas. As prominent business people in those areas, they could be looked to by others in the area to answer questions about the company, and also to be the recipient of any unfavorable information about the company. A question from a director gets answered very rapidly, and we wanted a means to respond rapidly to any unfavorable questions that might come up. P: Who succeeded you as CEO? M: John Hudiburg. P: Had he been with the company for awhile? M: He had been with the company for all of his business career. 79