not. I became what was called a coordinator for Sinclair Oil and Gas
 Corporation.

P: With the rank of vice-president?

M: Yes, I think so. Technically, in another company, we would have been senior
 vice-presidents, but we were called coordinators.

P: Were you what amounted to their top financial advisor?

M: I was their top financial person. I had under me treasury, accounting,
 electronic data processing, insurance, and one or two other departments. I
 have all of the names down here [pointing to a pen and pencil set]. This
 was given to me by the people who I supervised.

P: Shall we put those names down for the record?

M: I cannot really read what the departments were, but there are twelve names
 here of people who I supervised and who gave this to me when I left Sinclair.
 My job was to bring them up-to-date in the various areas over which I had
 control. The same thing was happening in the other areas there
 simultaneously. Somebody else had the legal responsibilities. I was very
 happy with them, and I was very happy with Tulsa.

P: Did they pay you well?

M: Well, no. I got in the mid-twenties. I probably did not make as much as I
 could have if I had stayed with this new area I was opening in Houston. But
 having been sick in bed at one point for four months and having had the
 experience of when I went down everything went down, I was concerned
 about the security of the family if something happened to my health. So I
 thought it would be better to take a job with more security, even though I
 might not get quite as much money.

P: It sounds to me, though, that throughout your career you have enjoyed your
 work very much, whatever the salary was.

M: I enjoyed most things. Now, the thing that really turned me off on accounting
 was this: the last time I personally had to inspect two months of checks for
 a large client--and they had about 10,000 checks a month--I had to look at the
 front and back of each check to compare the names and the amounts, not
 only to see that they were consistent, but also that they were consistent with
 the other records. That burned me out.

 The reason I got away from law was that it seemed that most of the time I
 was telling people what they could not do, and I really felt that it was more


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