in the fraternity, and when the fraternity moved into its new house we had room for a lot more people. I was offered the job of making up beds, which would pay for my food. At that time I also had a job as a student assistant for Dean [Robert Colder] Beaty [dean of students]. Between the forty dollars a month that I received there--I was well paid, and probably overpaid--and getting free food, I lived in comparative splendor. P: Oh, yes. You were one of the rich boys on campus. I am surprised you did not have an automobile. M: I did have an automobile for about a year and a half at the end of my second or third year, I think it was. Phillip Morris had contacted the campus and wanted to know if anybody wanted to distribute little packs of cigarettes, and I found out about it some way and got the job. I was paid fifty dollars a month to give away cigarettes for three months. I spent fifty dollars on a Ford roadster, and I took that up to school with me. Then it looked like times in Florida were getting a little better, and my folks thought that they could help me out some more at that point, so we traded that car in on about a 1932 Ford. I had that for a short period of time, but my father was not able to keep up the payments on it, so we sold it. P: Why did you decide to enroll in the College of Business? M: Because I knew that I was going to have to earn a living. I had always thought that I was going to go to law school. My father's expressed statement from my earliest recollection was that if you are going to do nothing better than dig ditches, then go into law school because it would help you dig a better ditch. He felt that law school was an excellent foundation for anything that you wanted to do. There was no particular strong guidance just to practice law--the prestige of the law--but as a preparation for doing other things he felt that training in law was good. So I went into the business school to prepare for law school. I do not remember any problem about it. My folks would have let me go into anything I wanted to go into. P: You started out in the University College? M: Yes. P: All students had to take the University College curriculum. It was in place when you arrived? M: It was called the General College. My first year in Gainesville was the first year that the University of Florida tried that General College program that they had taken from Robert Maynard Hutchins, president at the University of Chicago. We were the guinea pig class, and in each of our major courses the syllabus was changed from three to five times during that year. We had one examination in each subject for the entire year. We took three year-long 10