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C: There were just homes on the south side.

B: Was that street more of the prominent families composed to here on Fifth
 Avenue? Which one was the main area for blacks then?

C: Well, the main area for blacks was Pleasant and Fifth Avenue, you know.
 Those were the main streets.

B: Were there any other doctors offices on Pleasant Street?

C: No, I do not think there were any-other doctor's offices on Pleasant Street.

B: What else was there besides Mount Pleasant and Dr. Ayer's office and homes?

C: Just a barber shop.

B: A barber shop?

C: That is all that was on Pleasant Street.

B: It is said that when ladies in the early years had to go downtown to shop
 to buy clothing, that was something you just did not do, or even childs
 clothing. Did you have that experience?

C: No, I did not have that experience at all.

B: Were you able to shop?

C: Yes, my mother shopped for me every year. You know she had to get me ready
 to go back to school. And of course, I wanted new clothes to go back to
 school, and my mother would take me up to Wilson's. That was one of the
 nice stores in the town was Wilson's. We would go to Wilson's and mother
 would get me clothes. I did not have any problem shopping.

B: Do you ever recall any bad problems that happened in this area with blacks
 and whites?

C: No.

B: Would you say that it was a pleasant to live then?

C: It was a pleasant to live then.

B: It was?

C: I tell you, we could just, mother and I, we could go to town from here and
 just push the door through, the screen through, and leave the door unlocked,
 so the, mother said so the house would be cool when we came back. But you
 can not do that now. We sit on the porch now with our, with the door
 locked when you came the gate was locked.

B: You think that it was a pleasant area to be with no problems.

C: No problems whatsoever. We would go all the way to town. I would take my
 daddy's dinner in the summertime. We would be here. Meet the train, just