16 B: As a child, were you ever, thought of how to, not disobedient, but did you ever try to do those things that you could not do concerning black and white and have to be suffered about it? Did you ever try those things? C: Well, I did not get a chance to go to a white restaurant around here. You know to try, you know what I mean. B: Yes. It was something that you just did not do. C: No, no. I did not do it because I did not get a chance to. B: Now what did the black teachers ... you were from a well-to-do, outstanding family in Gainesville. What did you all do for entertainment? C: Well, we would have parties sometimes, We would have parties here. I always entertained here. B: Did you all ateend a lot of social clubs? C: We have different clubs now. We had a club meeting yesterday here. B: So that is the reason why there are so many clubs among the black community? C: Yes. So you can entertain yourself. B: Were you able to enjoy yourself in doing that? C: Yes, we did enjoy ourselves doing it. B: In our interview, you talked a lot about church. What church were you talking about that you were a member of? C: Mount Pleasant United Methodist Church. B: Have you been a member of that? C: All my life. B: Now that is the church that is right now on Second Street? C: Yes. B: What was it called then? C: Mount Pleasant United Methodist, Mount Pleasant Church. B: Now was the street called Second or was it called Pleasant? C: Pleasant, when I was a child it was Pleasant Street, B: What was on the north side of that? C: Dr. Ayer's office. B: What was on the south?