12 C: Yes, and it had black and white teachers there. Do oyu know Miss Jessie West? B: Yes. C: She was one of the teachers there when I was going to school. B: Really? C: Really, she is black. B: Yes, but now, Bethune Cookman, was that an integrated school then or was it predominantly black, all black? C: It was predominantly black but white could go. B: Did they? C: Yes, we had one or two whites, yes. We had white teachers too. B: At Bethune Cookman? C: At Bethune Cookman. So see, the color did not mean anything to me. I was very comfortable working with them. B: Did you have any problem at any time, were you mentioned about your lessons from the university and going back and forth. Was there ever any time you had any confrontations that might have left a place in your mind? C: Yes. The problem that Ihad in my mind why I had to go to Bethune Cookman when I could walk right here and go to school, and that has always stuck with me, all my life. B: How did your parents explain that to you? C: They told me that they just could not let me, they would not accept me because I was black. But do not let that hold me back There were other schools that I could go to, and be sure that I made good by going. B: Have you had a chance to study on campus since things have changed? C: No, I did not have a chance to go. B: Would you want to now? C: Yes. If I want to take any extra courses or anything I want, I can go now. B: Would you? C: Yes, B: But you do not need to do it? C: No. B: What do you think about all the publications concerning blacks not being