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 Mr. GOLDWATER. 107.
 Mr. MAGNUSON. 170 or 107?
 Mir. GOLDWATER. 107. The largest ship we actually have through there is the liarauwa,-which is our newest miniaircraft carrier.
 Mr. MAGNUSON. I am talking about the beam.
 Mr. GOLDWATER. I am talking about the beam. They had to remove protrusions from the side of the ship so that it could go through the locks.
 I happen to be in perfect agreement -with the Senator on the need for a sea level canal eventually, but I think it will be a very expensive venture.
 Mr. MAGNUSON. I know this will take a long time, but I1 know that the present canal is becoming more and more obsolete each year, and I do know the time is coming when we will have to seriously consider a second canal.
 I do think that the people of the United States ought to have some assurance that as this canal becomes obsolete, and as we lose control of it, if we are going to lose partial control, that we are going to have to have some alternative, and we ought to get busy on it. The longer we wait, the more it will cost.
 Mr. GRIFFIN. Mr. President, will the Senator from Washington yield?
 Mr. MAGNUSON. As sure as I am standing hereAwe are going to have to have a second canal.
 Mr. MCCLURE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield on that point?
 Mr. MAGNUSON. Yes.
 Mr. MCCLURE. If we do as a matter of fact need to have a second canal, it would seem to me to be prudent that -we reserve to ourselves at least the negotiating option of deciding when it ought to be built, instead of giving away that option in the provisions of this treaty.
 The Senator from Maryland has said we did not return their guarantee for them to let anybody else do it. Well, I do not see anybody else standing in line trying to build that canal at the present time.
 Mr. SARBANES. Does the Senator from Idaho feel that the right we have to block anyone else from building a canal throni'h Panama from now until the year 2000 is not of value to the United States?
 Mr. MCCLURE. Not nearly as much value to the United States as the value to be able to negotiate the terms of building such a canal either in Panama or somewhere else, -without the restrictions, without the veto being placed in the hands of the Government of Panama over the U.S. action.
 Mr. SARBANES. I just cite again Colonel Sheffey's Words, who did the study, and who said the only place feasible to build the canal is through Panama, and that for us to get from them the agreement that no one else can do it unless -we approve it is extremely valuable. As he says, it is an extremely valuable quid pro quo; we are getting something for nothing.